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AdamPvP

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ok to clear this out pika is already great i put that in the thread title just so you guys click xD
now to the topic
OP facs is in 1.8 i believe of what i heard in the forums and that's bad for pvp, let me explain why:
1- 1.8 drops some players' fps, if they got 60 fps in 1.7.10 and they could pvp chances are they wont be able to pvp in 1.8 and they will probably quit
2- hitting in 1.7.10 is much smoother, better and efficient also add to that block hitting
why not normal hitting why is block hitting important you ask? great question basically block hitting is made to get out of a combo, if you are getting combo block hitting the one comboing ya will increase the KB (knockback) making it highly useful when you wanna get out of a fight
3- every single pvper knows that 1.7.10 is better and getting used to 1.8 pvp after all the time he was pvping in 1.7.10 will make it hard impossible perhaps since 1.8 gets rid of minor stuff that non-pvpers think its whatever but for pvpers these minor stuff like fps drop and block hitting is a HUGE part in their pvp life.
quick note i am banned from the server i know and ill get alot of people saying you cant play why you complaining well im complaining because i understand that keeping op facs 1.7 is what's best for the players in op facs and that whole point of "we have to upgrade to fix errors" upgrading from 1.7.10 to 1.8 might fix 1 or 2 errors true but for pvpers its not an upgrade its a downgrade and considering op facs is a pvp server it aint anymore with 1.8
#PvPIsNotPvPIfNot1.7.10 i hope staff take this seriously and if any staff still doesnt know the diff between 1.8pvp and 1.7 pvp here's what i have to tell ya go on another server that has 1.7
pvp there for a day or two like a kit pvp server or something
then come back to pika and pvp in 1.8 then you will understand the diff
 

Agrolax

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Yeah I agree...kit pvp and factions/op FACS should be 1.7.20 again :/
 
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AdamPvP

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1.7.10 is good enough i think 1.7.20 will be op ;)
 

Destruct

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You see, the population of 1.8 comes along with 1.8 plugins, more advanced ones that can help the server, 1.7 is the 1.7 plugins from back then, some may be useful some may not contribute anything. I understand pvp might be difficult for you, but you necessarily need to be good at strafing and avoiding hits, 1.8 is pretty good, you just need to click fast, block hitting is gone in most cases. Be happy we aren't 1.9, that would've completely ruin pvp for the community in many cases.
 

GeeGee

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But guys 1.8 is great, it has new blocks like the slime and it has andesite and new enchanting ratios!! Its amazing, we have to keep updated guys, we cant live in 1.7 forever!!

-The average pikacrafter who knows s**t about pvp or cannons
 

MasterPoop

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ok to clear this out pika is already great i put that in the thread title just so you guys click xD
now to the topic
OP facs is in 1.8 i believe of what i heard in the forums and that's bad for pvp, let me explain why:
1- 1.8 drops some players' fps, if they got 60 fps in 1.7.10 and they could pvp chances are they wont be able to pvp in 1.8 and they will probably quit
2- hitting in 1.7.10 is much smoother, better and efficient also add to that block hitting
why not normal hitting why is block hitting important you ask? great question basically block hitting is made to get out of a combo, if you are getting combo block hitting the one comboing ya will increase the KB (knockback) making it highly useful when you wanna get out of a fight
3- every single pvper knows that 1.7.10 is better and getting used to 1.8 pvp after all the time he was pvping in 1.7.10 will make it hard impossible perhaps since 1.8 gets rid of minor stuff that non-pvpers think its whatever but for pvpers these minor stuff like fps drop and block hitting is a HUGE part in their pvp life.
quick note i am banned from the server i know and ill get alot of people saying you cant play why you complaining well im complaining because i understand that keeping op facs 1.7 is what's best for the players in op facs and that whole point of "we have to upgrade to fix errors" upgrading from 1.7.10 to 1.8 might fix 1 or 2 errors true but for pvpers its not an upgrade its a downgrade and considering op facs is a pvp server it aint anymore with 1.8
#PvPIsNotPvPIfNot1.7.10 i hope staff take this seriously and if any staff still doesnt know the diff between 1.8pvp and 1.7 pvp here's what i have to tell ya go on another server that has 1.7
pvp there for a day or two like a kit pvp server or something
then come back to pika and pvp in 1.8 then you will understand the diff
YOUNG MAN I MSUT AGREE WITH YOU LONG TIME NO SEE ADAM
 

MasterPoop

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You see, the population of 1.8 comes along with 1.8 plugins, more advanced ones that can help the server, 1.7 is the 1.7 plugins from back then, some may be useful some may not contribute anything. I understand pvp might be difficult for you, but you necessarily need to be good at strafing and avoiding hits, 1.8 is pretty good, you just need to click fast, block hitting is gone in most cases. Be happy we aren't 1.9, that would've completely ruin pvp for the community in many cases.
Dest you're saying that about how 1.8 peolpe is good but im wondering if you have ever pvped in 1.7 then tried to pvp in 1.8... 1.8 pvp = eb0la
 

Destruct

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I have, I can see the difference. Especially on hardcore pvp servers, 1.7 is a bigger advantage. But the only thing I really see is the block hitting get removed.
 

MasterPoop

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I have, I can see the difference. Especially on hardcore pvp servers, 1.7 is a bigger advantage. But the only thing I really see is the block hitting get removed.
Its a lot different, most texture packs are also made for 1.7, which can be easily fixed, but the hit detection on 1.8 is much worse than 1.7 and the feel for pvp is a lot worse in 1.8 too. But thats maybe because I've played on 1.7 my whole entire life and because i play on "hardcore pvp servers" like hcf alot xD
 

Opticlulz

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Chances are pika will not downgrade the servers to 1.7 considering we are fully 1.8+ now.
 
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AdamPvP

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I have, I can see the difference. Especially on hardcore pvp servers, 1.7 is a bigger advantage. But the only thing I really see is the block hitting get removed.
by you saying there is no major diff but block hitting you clearly never pvped i cant really explain
you'll have to try it out for yourself to see the diff everyone is talking about because there's much more than block hitting WAAAAY more.
lets give ya some examples :
most pvp texture packs are only compatible with 1.7.10, most pvp mods like armor status hud are hard to find in 1.8 unless you use 5zig which in my opinion is bad since its covers up your whole screen.
 
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AdamPvP

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Chances are pika will not downgrade the servers to 1.7 considering we are fully 1.8+ now.
why not make pvp servers 1.7.10? if you say to fix errors that are caused by 1.7.10 that aint a solution
if a body is sick you give it medicine not kill it
same thing with pvp by changing to 1.8 you are killing pvp servers which aint really that cool for pvpers and those who can only pvp in 1.7.10 can no longer pvp making the op facs server useless as a pvp server, and about that "major" difference from 1.8 and 1.7 you'll have to pvp for quite a while to understand the pain of changing from 1.8 to 1.7
 
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But guys 1.8 is great, it has new blocks like the slime and it has andesite and new enchanting ratios!! Its amazing, we have to keep updated guys, we cant live in 1.7 forever!!

-The average pikacrafter who knows s**t about pvp or cannons
if you even pvp alot you would've came with us and ruining pvp for 80% of the pvpers on the servers just for slime blocks/andesite is useless we lived in 1.7.10 without andesite no one complained about it and about "enchanting ratios" please like really? you serious? we are talking abuot op facs here and you come saying enchanting ratios smh a 1.4 million rank in op facs which you can vote to get that money gets ya prot 5 i believe (better than anyone will ever enchant) every 30 mins if they changed to 1.8 cuz of enchanting ratios i better off get the bleach
 

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Why dont we get full use out of the 1.8 faction plugins which are more advanced?
like 50% is disabled such as faction money and more permissions settings for faction owners/mods.
 

ali99

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pvp servers can greatly be imporved by using 1.7....i suggest
pvp=1.7
non pvp =1.8-1.9

1.7 has better pvp supporting features and in contrast to 1.8 doesnt have any anti kb glitch that results 10s of players being banned in a month and annoying...and greatly reduces fps

old is gold XD
 
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1.7 is needed for pvp servers , no doubt about that ...



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GeeGee

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Sorry AdamPvP, on my previous post i was just being a sarcastic a-hole. I never pvped that much on pika but reading your post and semific's on other thread i realize how top pvpers get frustrated with 1.8. I do too, i was getting into cannons and 1.8 ruined everything for me since in 1.8 the tnt mechanics are different.
What i was trying to illustrate on my previous post was the average response kids make to this kind of thread. I understand that kids want the new flashing toys (1.9/1.8) without taking other players into consideration. Now something we have to consider here is the owners prespective, maybe this new upgrades that kids want will make him more money, which is ok, but still pisses me off.
The usual response the staff gives is that 1.7 is old, buggy and has outdated plugins. So if you are a person who thinks like this riddle me the following: how come the biggest faction server (preston's) is still running in 1.7?
What I understand is that having support for 1.9, 1.8 and 1.7 gives them bugs and issues, so it has to be either 1.7/1.8 or 1.8/1.9 and since the kids want the new pokemon its gonna be the latter. This blows my mind since for what ive seen the majority of the players are from the pvp servers and 1.7 has been proven to be the best version for it. But again maybe the owner gets more donations from kids if he gives them the new pokemon.
Jimmy made a good point lol, how come we have 1.8 and we dont get this "new plugins"? All ive seen new in factions is the Ah, which btw exists on 1.7 too, and the PAC.
Good luck, have fun!
 
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